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Queen of Frickin' Everything

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Date: Dec 15, 2011
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This was on the weeb-so it must be true:

How to Lock Your Car and Why 

I locked my car.  As I walked away I heard my car door unlock.  I went back and locked my car again three times. Each time, as soon as I started to walk away, I would hear it unlock again!!  Naturally alarmed, I looked around and there were two guys sitting in a car in the fire lane next to the store. They were obviously watching me intently, and there was no doubt they were somehow involved in this very weird situation .  I quickly chucked the errand I was on, jumped in my car and sped away.  I went straight t o the police station, told them what had happened, and found out I was part of a new, and very successful, scheme being used to gain entry into cars.  Two weeks later, my friend's son had a similar happening....
 
While traveling, my friend's son stopped at a roadside rest to use the bathroom.  When he came out to his car less than 4-5 minutes later, someone had gotten into his car and stolen his cell phone, laptop computer, GPS navigator, briefcase.....you name it.  He called the police and since there were no signs of his car being broken into, the police told him he had been a victim of the latest robbery tactic -- there is a device that robbers are using now to clone your security code when you lock your doors on your car using your key-chain l ocking device..

They sit a distance away and watch for their next victim. They know you are going inside of the store, restaurant, or bathroom and that they now have a few minutes to steal and run. The police officer said to manually lock your car door-by hitting the lock button inside the car -- that way if there is someone sitting in a parking lot watching for their next victim, it will not be you. 

When you hit the lock button on your car upon exiting, it does not send the security code, but if you walk away and use the door lock on your key chain, it sends the code through the airwaves where it can be instantly stolen  
 

Be wisely aware of what you just read and please pass this note on.  Look how many times we all lock our doors with our remote just to be sure we remembered to lock them -- and bingo, someone has our code...and whatever was in our car. 


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At Gnome in the kitchen

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Ick!

Good thing I don't keep anything valuable in my truck.

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Jedi

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That's crazy! Weirdly, I always use the lock button inside my vehicles instead of using the remote. Mainly because my 1st car had manual locks, and my last car's remote had issues with the battery contacts coming loose inside.

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Date: Dec 15, 2011
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aergia wrote:

This was on the weeb-so it must be true:

How to Lock Your Car and Why 

I locked my car.  As I walked away I heard my car door unlock.  I went back and locked my car again three times. Each time, as soon as I started to walk away, I would hear it unlock again!!  Naturally alarmed, I looked around and there were two guys sitting in a car in the fire lane next to the store. They were obviously watching me intently, and there was no doubt they were somehow involved in this very weird situation .  I quickly chucked the errand I was on, jumped in my car and sped away.  I went straight t o the police station, told them what had happened, and found out I was part of a new, and very successful, scheme being used to gain entry into cars.  Two weeks later, my friend's son had a similar happening....
 
While traveling, my friend's son stopped at a roadside rest to use the bathroom.  When he came out to his car less than 4-5 minutes later, someone had gotten into his car and stolen his cell phone, laptop computer, GPS navigator, briefcase.....you name it.  He called the police and since there were no signs of his car being broken into, the police told him he had been a victim of the latest robbery tactic -- there is a device that robbers are using now to clone your security code when you lock your doors on your car using your key-chain l ocking device..

They sit a distance away and watch for their next victim. They know you are going inside of the store, restaurant, or bathroom and that they now have a few minutes to steal and run. The police officer said to manually lock your car door-by hitting the lock button inside the car -- that way if there is someone sitting in a parking lot watching for their next victim, it will not be you. 

When you hit the lock button on your car upon exiting, it does not send the security code, but if you walk away and use the door lock on your key chain, it sends the code through the airwaves where it can be instantly stolen  
 

Be wisely aware of what you just read and please pass this note on.  Look how many times we all lock our doors with our remote just to be sure we remembered to lock them -- and bingo, someone has our code...and whatever was in our car. 


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 What's unbelievable here is that the thieves would unlock the car while the driver was close enough to hear the doors unlock --- three times.

This does warrant some research, however. Now, where to look ...

 



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At Gnome in the kitchen

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Maybe they're counting on ambient noise to be too loud for the driver to hear the click of the locks?

Also, being that I'm partially deaf ... If I'm more than a few feet away, I won't hear the doors unlock. I hear my truck beep, assume it's locked, and go on my merry way.

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Always misinterpret when you can

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Date: Dec 15, 2011
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aergia wrote:

This was on the weeb-so it must be true:

How to Lock Your Car and Why 

I locked my car.  As I walked away I heard my car door unlock.  I went back and locked my car again three times. Each time, as soon as I started to walk away, I would hear it unlock again!!  Naturally alarmed, I looked around and there were two guys sitting in a car in the fire lane next to the store. They were obviously watching me intently, and there was no doubt they were somehow involved in this very weird situation .  I quickly chucked the errand I was on, jumped in my car and sped away.  I went straight t o the police station, told them what had happened, and found out I was part of a new, and very successful, scheme being used to gain entry into cars.  Two weeks later, my friend's son had a similar happening....
 
While traveling, my friend's son stopped at a roadside rest to use the bathroom.  When he came out to his car less than 4-5 minutes later, someone had gotten into his car and stolen his cell phone, laptop computer, GPS navigator, briefcase.....you name it.  He called the police and since there were no signs of his car being broken into, the police told him he had been a victim of the latest robbery tactic -- there is a device that robbers are using now to clone your security code when you lock your doors on your car using your key-chain l ocking device..

They sit a distance away and watch for their next victim. They know you are going inside of the store, restaurant, or bathroom and that they now have a few minutes to steal and run. The police officer said to manually lock your car door-by hitting the lock button inside the car -- that way if there is someone sitting in a parking lot watching for their next victim, it will not be you. 

When you hit the lock button on your car upon exiting, it does not send the security code, but if you walk away and use the door lock on your key chain, it sends the code through the airwaves where it can be instantly stolen  
 

Be wisely aware of what you just read and please pass this note on.  Look how many times we all lock our doors with our remote just to be sure we remembered to lock them -- and bingo, someone has our code...and whatever was in our car. 


Snopes Approved --.Please share with everyone you know


I can't copy the text from the Snopes article, but here's the link:

 

http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/lockcode.asp

 

 

They say it's nonsense.



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Jedi

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Also, there are only so many key/remote codes for any given make/model.

Years back when I had my Cobalt, one day I went to open the trunk and there were a few random things in my trunk that were not only not mine, but there was a micro sd card for a cell phone. I looked at it and didn't recognize a single person on it. That's when my brother told me about the key/remote codes. He said you could go to say, the Mall of America and walk the parking ramps trying a GM key in all of the GM cars, or using a remote and maybe 1 in 1100 cars- your key/remote would work in the locks. So he figured someone must have been that one in 1000 times someone else's key worked for my trunk. Weirdly, how many codes do you think work for a blue 06 cobalt?


Kinda creepy, huh?



-- Edited by Prom Queen Betty on Thursday 15th of December 2011 05:51:42 PM

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Jedi

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I'm having editing fails... ALso, this was after my car had extensive hail repair. The trunk was emptied of the liner and everything, so it couldn't have been from a previous owner.

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wow I wished this wasn't snopes approved. To scary.

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Oh thanks Ed for the clarification. Isn't this why the "pitch tone" is no longer on most car key locks so it can't be copied?

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I know what to do_sometimes wrote:

Oh thanks Ed for the clarification. Isn't this why the "pitch tone" is no longer on most car key locks so it can't be copied?


 pitch tone? I'm not familiar with this.



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Well in previous cars I've had the key lock is on a pitch, could be copied. My current one makes so sound.

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raising small hand

I do not nor have I ever had a car with electric locks or a real alarm system. I did have a fake alarm system once.

Most likely the next car willhave fancy stuff.

 

exh2 and I had Saturns. Our keys worked in both locks. Go figure.



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I don't have a key chain remote so I always lock them manually. ALWAYS, even if my car is in the driveway or I walk in a gas station for 2 minutes and can see my car the whole time, I still always lock it. Can't trust anyone now days..

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So, how about the key pads? I often lock the doors by hitting the 2 keys on the key pad. Does that send a signal?

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Lawyerlady wrote:

So, how about the key pads? I often lock the doors by hitting the 2 keys on the key pad. Does that send a signal?


Is the keypad part of the door? If so, there's no need for a transmitter and receiver, it's wired into the computer.

If you look at the Snopes article, it explains that the wireless signals really can't be intercepted like that.



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ed11563 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:

So, how about the key pads? I often lock the doors by hitting the 2 keys on the key pad. Does that send a signal?


Is the keypad part of the door? If so, there's no need for a transmitter and receiver, it's wired into the computer.

If you look at the Snopes article, it explains that the wireless signals really can't be intercepted like that.


 The keypad is part of the door.  I love my keypad - don't think I can ever have another car without one.



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I have a Slim Jim (metal, from an auto parts store, not mystery meat from a deli). Anyone want to borrow it? They cost $1 when I bought it.

 



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ed11563 wrote:

I have a Slim Jim (metal, from an auto parts store, not mystery meat from a deli). Anyone want to borrow it? They cost $1 when I bought it.

 


 I have fragments from a used spark plug.



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Did they have electric locks when this cost $1?

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aergia wrote:

Did they have electric locks when this cost $1?


Yes, and they still work the same way. 



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yeah well me with lo tech cars, what do I know?

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